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Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?
I am doing a paper on the menopause drug called Premarin and it is from a pregnant mares urine. The mare can't hardly move and she has to stand for a long time during the last six months of her pregnancy. She stays in the stall until she gives birth and the foal will be shipped off to auction and normally go to the slaughter house.

Yes, they absolutely should be closed. The horse hell horror of these places has been going on about 60 years too long!

Gave my doctor an ear full the day he suggested HRT. He now has a lot of specifics that he didn't before. Also, the only form of HRT I even considered is Estroven and it works just fine. (all natural, plant derived)

Super-Goofy, what an appropriate handle. Please don't feel the need to live up to that monicker with your answers...

It was a 15 y/o PMU, barely halter-broke, bred, foaled, terrorized and put on the pee lines by age 3 mare that broke both my legs a year and a half ago. After 2 1/2 years of constant, loving handling she still will not allow a stranger near her. Sound like a well fed, sheltered, pampered figment of your imagination?
This isn't an isolated incident. Nearly all the mare adoptions I've talked to have stories of psychotic behaviour with these mares.

Should they ban PMU farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

This is a drug that has a lot of side effects including breast cancer. They also mistreat the animals. Premarin comes from pregnant mare's urine. I am doing at research paper and I need to do a survey so YES or NO answer's only. please :)

no to banning pmu farms
yes to cutting off premarin

Is there anything I can do to help stop PMU (Premarin) Production?

I am about to adopt a PMU foal.

However I want to do more.

I am a Senior in Highschool.

Is there anything I can do to help? (Fundraise? Etc.)

Premarine production was greatly reduced about 4 years ago. Thank God. Before that there were standard of care rules that were strictly enforced. Urine was to be only purchased from contracted farms. The mares were living at pasture in a natural herd environment from early Spring to late Fall. They were in the barn for the winter - alternated frequently.
Not as bad off as some "pampered" show horses that are kept in windowless boxes with an hour or two of turn out a day.
Currently Premarine is used in many topical ointments and not as much in HRT drugs.
I was on the board for a PMU foal placement group from 1999 to 2005 . FoalQuest
The foals were mainly high quality - many with impressive bloodlines and papers - many warmblood types etc.
BE SURE YOU ARE ADOPTING A FOAL that is REALLY from a farm that holds a PMU contract. There are many many jerks out there that USED to have a PMU contract and they are still breeding horses to try and get more $$ than the feedlot will pay for a foal. They are preying on the bleeding hearted UNinformed.
A PMU foal has never ever been touched let alone trained in any way. They have been in a pasture with Mom since birth.
I trained a number of them (at one point I had 5 "wild weanlings" at once) and still have 3 that are now 8 and 7 years old.
Feel free to contact me if you need any help or further info.

Birth control that's Premarin free?

Are there any BC options that don't involve supporting the Premarin production of foals? I have heard that birth control helps with cramps (which have been becoming increasingly worse) but I don't like the idea of supporting an industry that is breeding horses for this sole purpose and then dumping them into glue factories...

Does anyone know?

Okay, this may be way off base but I am going to throw it at you. If you are needing something to help relieve the cramping but don't want the 'drug' that is derived from animals I am going to suggest seeing an OBGYN who has natural, plant based hormones available.

I am menopausal, refused to use the estrogen/progesterone drug on the market for HRT, so I ended up with specifically lab produced plant based hormones.

Completely natural, no animal by-product and works great.

Do you think it is ethical to collect estrogen urine from pregnant mares?

I have been reading about the horrible conditions pregnant Mares are kept in to aid in the production of Premarin. Considering the mixed views on hormone replacement therapy, should this practice continue?

http://www.fwhc.org/health/premarin.htm

I'll give you some pregnant urine. Is fed-ex okay?

Low estrogen levels, no sexual desire at all help please?

I had a baby girl 5 months ago, at my 6 weeks check-up my doctor told me i have vaginal dryness caused by low estrogen levels, he gave me a prescription for a cream call premarin, that will help when I want it to have sex with my husband. i found out the cream could decrease your milk production so I decided not to use it, since i'm breastfeeding. My sex drive is 0 no desire at all, my hair is falling, i am tired i dont think i am depressed but i dont feel any desire to have sex so you know, its been 6 months since the last time, and i just want to know if my estrogen levels will go up by itself or what, i am on birth control pills Errin0.35mg so no ovulation with those pills neither...i guess i am so confused, anyone can help pls

This is a very common problem and due to a lack of good fats in your diet. Doctors are the wrong people to ask about these kinds of problems. Drugs are "make believe health" and your problem is nutritional. Please understand that cholesterol is the substance that ALL your steroid hormones are made of. You start with cholesterol and that is made into Pregnenalone and that makes Progesterone. If you have low cholesterol, eat low fat foods, and eat lots of carbs, you have put yourself in a position where your body simply cannot make good endocrine and steroid hormones.

Breast milk is about 53% saturated fat and if you followed your doctors advice and didn't eat fish and took the typical prenasty vitamins when pregnant, you are very likely to be very deficient in essential fatty acids as well. All this is creating the problem I strongly suggest. It is very common for people to think that by eating less fat, they will lose weight and once women have the baby, they assume by eating low, non fat foods, they will get their figure back quickly. Bad idea.

When you eat high carb meals, low fat, you get lots of insulin / glucagon spikes that precipitate high cortisol production and since cortisol is made from Pregnenalone the body steals that to make the cortisol (a steroid hormone by the way) and the sex organs are the ones that get left out.

Taking hormones is the last thing you want to do as well. I hope you are breast feeding and you should continue doing that for 2 years and get some good fats into you. AVOID ALL soybean, canola, cottonseed, and corn oils. Eat lots and lots of olive oil, real butter (not margarine) made from raw cream from grass fed cows, lots of coconut oils, walnut oil, avocado oil. Limit your carbs and get most of your calories from fat. You will lose that weight, feel much better, and that libido will come screaming back.

To tell a woman that her cholesterol should be below 200 is ludicrous. Women should have a cholesterol reading above 240 total cholesterol for longevity. Doctors are promoting a drug agenda on this issue and making people dangerously susceptible for long term sickness with this cholesterol myth. Does it make sense to you that your liver makes 85% of the cholesterol in your body and only 15% comes from the diet? If your diet is lacking, your body just makes more to compensate for many important reasons.

The breast feeding is not shutting off your estrogen. Babies need you to breast feed for two years to allow the inner lumens of the intestines to fully develop. Many people get asthma and allergies because solid food is introduced too soon before the intestines are fully developed. It is part of the immune system construction and very important.

good luck to you

Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

I am doing a paper on the menopause drug called Premarin and it is from a pregnant mares urine. The mare can't hardly move and she has to stand for a long time during the last six months of her pregnancy. She stays in the stall until she gives birth and the foal will be shipped off to auction and normally go to the slaughter house.

There are many alternatives to Premarin that are at least as good, possibly better. so it would be no loss if Premarin was banned--menopausal women will have plenty of alternatives that are equally as good. If there were NO alternatives, then that would be a different matter--human lives take precedence over animal lives. But there ARE alternatives, so animal cruelty is unnecessary. On the other hand, it would be hypocritical because other animals are treated equally as bad or worse that are raised for eating, so why single out horses for Premarin?

Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

I am doing a paper on the menopause drug called Premarin and it is from a pregnant mares urine. The mare can't hardly move and she has to stand for a long time during the last six months of her pregnancy. She stays in the stall until she gives birth and the foal will be shipped off to auction and normally go to the slaughter house.

The remaining Premarin farms are located in the western provinces of Canada, not the US, and there is nothing anyone here can do about them, as we do not rule the Canadians and cannot control what they and their government do or don't do.There were some farms in the Western US at one time, mostly in states like North Dakota and Montana, but these have disappeared, because the bottom has dropped out of the market for Premarin, and the farm owners can't sell their product- the urine- because there are no buyers for it. This is NOT a new subject- this aspect of Premarin production has caused problems for the drug's maker for DECADES. It's only been within the last 8 years or so, after the Women's Health Initiative study was halted, that the bottom has REALLY dropped out of the Premarin and hormone replacement therapy market, mainly because of all the negative publicity which resulted when the study was halted. Hormone replacement therapy can cause women to have heart attacks and strokes if it is continued very long- nature evidently meant for women to stop producing hormones at a certain age for a REASON, it appears, and this certainly would be a good one. As I am sure you know, heart disease has now surpassed breast cancer as the number one killer of American women- and the same thing is true in Canada and throughout much of the rest of the world. Taking Premarin and drugs like it raises the risk of a heart attack or stroke in many women, and the risks of dying from one of these conditions go way up. That simple fact alone is more than enough to cause an awful lot of bad publicity for the drug's maker, Wyeth-Ayerst Pharmaceuticals. The risks outweigh the benefits of using such drugs, and this is the reason why many doctors have quit prescribing these drugs to their patients. Fewer prescriptions filled means less demand for the drugs, which in turn means that fewer mares are subjected to the needless cruelties involved in producing them. It also means that fewer foals get born without a future.

So you see, Premarin production here in the US has been halted- and we now produce what little hormone replacement drugs we still need synthetically, as one of the other writers has said. We also have passed legislation which bans horse slaughter at the federal level- this law took effect more than a year ago, shortly after it was signed by George Bush. So there are no Premarin foals being exported to Europe and the Pacific Rim, at least not from the US- but Canada and Mexico are different, and so is the rest of the world. The United States is one of the only nations on the planet which has a cultural taboo against the consumption of horse meat and horse based products as food- horsemeat is considered to be a delicacy in many parts of world. In Europe, the French are the biggest consumers of it, and they particularly favor young horse meat, or the meat from foals. But the French are by no means alone when it comes to consuming horses- horsemeat is widely consumed in Japan and most of the Far East, including in places like China, the Koreas, all of the Southeast Asian countries, and even in India, since the Hindu faith they practice there prohibits beef consumption. The same thing applies to Premarin production and consumption in a lot of these countries- but the US can do nothing about this, much as we might wish to. We are NOT the world's police force, and it is NOT our place to dictate what other nations can and can't do. The reality is that Premarin production and use is going to continue, perhaps for many more years, until enough women finally recognize how cruel it is. At that point, yes, it will disappear for good, because of public outcry.

Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

The reason why I am asking this so many times is that my professor is telling me that I don't have enough people on my survey.

I would say yes. The mare's are getting bred then as soon as the foals are born they are thrown into a pasture to die, and then the mares are bred again for their urine. I own a PMU filly. She is mixed with Tennessee walker and thoroughbred and so confused and disproportional. I mean there are tons of reasons horses go to meat packers and slaughter houses but these places contribute and make money off of it. They keep producing foals that just go on to become dead or food.

Should they ban PMU Farms and cut off the production of Premarin?

I am doing a survey for my english reserach paper and my professor said that I need more people. answer this question with a YES or NO only!! Please :)

yes

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