Valium and liver damage
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My friend took around 8000 mg of acetaminophen on Saturday night 2/9/08 last week. From what Ive been reading that is double the maximum dose of what a person should have in one day. She is only 100 pds and she took valium and vicodin on top of the aceptaminophen. A week later she seems fine but could there still be fatal liver damage going on? Or would it have shown up in 48-72 hours like all the books say?
Acetaminophen is also in vicodin, her liver is at risk.
The liver has a natural mechanism to protect it from the toxic metabolite that acetaminophen is turned into. But with high doses that protection is stripped away.
Diet can also effect the toxicity, alcohol use make it much more toxic. There is an antidote acetylcysteine, asparagus contains cysteine which also might be protective.
She needs to stop this activity, her behavior will make her need a new liver sometime soon if it does not kill her first.
She should see a doctor, blood tests can check for liver enzyme levels to gage her condition, maybe treatment is not too late.
Is it safe to drink alcohol after this?
Okay so 3rd March i overdosed on 46 solpadol and 8 valium (6 street blueys and 2 yellows) after a week end of alcohol and cocaine. I was in hospital for 8 days and when i got out i went to the pub and got smashed on alcohol and cocaine again having a seriously bad come down, this time i did not attempt to kill myself.
I am currently on 20mg citalopram and it has been 3 weeks since my last drink. I am so desperate to go out at the week end and have a few drinks (no cocaine) but i don't know if it will damage my liver. I have completely changed my life around but still want a few bevvies at the week end is this possible? How long should i wait until i have another drink?
Your question is very striking, and it reminds me of myself. This is what I heard you say:
1. I'm miserable, and my stress was so overwhelming I thought the only way to end the pain was to end my life.
2. I let to get ****** up on drugs or alcohol. (I don't blame you, it feels good).
3. I'm trying to change I'm on citalopram and I haven't drank in a few weeks.
4. I want to get ****** up, have a few bevvies at the end of the week like a normal person.
If you have to ask how long you should wait to put more poison in an already poisoned and badly damaged liver, then maybe you should reconsider taking the poison to begin with. Why do you need it?
You say you have completely turned your life around, and I think it's great you want to change, but how much have you changed, really, if you have that burning desire to escape and want to act on it with a substance?
You really want to change? Try going to an AA meeting. You don't have to say anything or talk to anyone. You don't even have to say you have a problem, to yourself or anyone else. You don't have to be sober. Just go and listen, that's the least amount of effort you need to expend. And afterward, if you feel like it, go have a few drinks.
You sound young...so am I. I'm trying to change and frankly, it sucks. But it's better than doing what I was doing before. It's never too late to change and lead a fulfilling life, especially when you are young. I wish someone had said it to me earlier. Good luck.
Why am i felling so weak?
i went on a bender for a week and was in hospital, drank to much alcohol but been sober for a week and never again touching the booze,it nearly killed me but after 7 days i find it hard climbing the stair
at home,,the consulant put me on a form of valium and theimine but it stopped theshakes but i need strength,,,,,is there anything else i can take to help,,,,,the doctorssaid my liver is 95 percent damaged effecting my brain...what a idiot i was..no excuses but i ****** up ,,,is
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It can take months for your liver to recover. It's probably too soon to know how much of the liver damage is permanent, and how much will heal. The liver is usually fairly resilient and you'll get back of functionality over time but it will be a slow process.
Just take it easy, continue to follow the advice of your doctor, and steer clear of anything else that will damage your liver such as tylenol and especially booze.
Why do we hold double standards for drugs?
Alcohol and tobacco are terrible drugs. Alcohol in particular is basically a liquid benzodiazepine(a pill like Valium). It is also the one of the most physically addicting drugs seeing that the withdrawal can kill you. As opposed to opiate withdrawal which is just painful but you cannot die from it (though there have been a few extremely rare cases because they were either old or sick). I actually know a recovering alcoholic and a ex-heroin addict who basically told me he would choose heroin withdrawal over alcohol withdrawal any day. He was sent to the hospital multiple times while he was withdrawing from alcohol. While heroin is more psychologically addicting it is actually possible to live your life as a heroin addict if you have sanitary supplies and you actually know the dosage of heroin your taking. Most people don't realize this but the health problems associated with heroin and other opiates are primarily due to cardiovascular infections that occur when using unsterilized needles and an unsterilized substance. The major health problem caused directly from heroin is.... constipation. Alcohol on the other will destroy your liver as well as your brain. Stimulants like amphetamine, nicotine, methamphetamine, cocaine, and caffeine are bad for your circulatory system and increase the risk of a heart attack. Methamphetamine may have a negative effect on the brain but nothing conclusive can be said yet. Cocaine, amphetamine, and methamphetamine can give you psychosis in prolonged periods of use but it generally will go away after use has been stopped. Cocaine seems to do the most damage to the cardiovascular system than the other stimulants. But they are not very physically addicting when compared with opiates and depressants. Then next category is the most misunderstood group of drugs. The hallucinogens such as LSD, mescaline(primary psychoactive alkaloid in peyote), psilocybin(primary psychoactive alkaloid in mushrooms), and marijuana(although marijuana should be in a group of it's own). The primary negative effect of LSD is HPPD. This is commonly referred to as a flashback. But those who I've spoken to that have experienced HPPD it isn't very disruptive or problematic, also quite rare. LSD can also trigger schizophrenia if your family has a history of it, but it is usually thought that the schizophrenia was going to eventually show itself in that person anyways. LSD can give you a permatrip (permanent trip) if you take too much. But this can easily be avoided with education of dosage. Mescaline and psilocybin have not been known to cause a permatrip. Most people also don't realize that there is a benefit to using hallucinogens. They can allow you think without bias and to see yourself as well as the world in ways like never before. Its finally time to talk about the perfect drug... marijuana. The reason I call it the perfect drug is because its negative effects are not profound. I realize a lot of people will shout lung cancer but there is a lot of debate as to whether it actually causes cancer because they are finally controlling for tobacco in marijuana cancer studies. I personally believe it does but it won't increase your risk as much as tobacco will. This is because marijuana contains cannibidiol which has anti-tumoral properties. Also marijuana smoke has been noted to cause apoptosis in the lungs, thus DNA will degrade less. The smoke is also been noted to clear lungs and not penetrate as deeply as tobacco smoke. Even if it does cause lung cancer it doesn't matter because it can easily be vaporized or baked into food which eliminates that argument completely. Marijuana doesn't cause any permanent brain damage. It will however "slow" your brain down but this is temporary and fades once usage has stopped. Marijuana does effect driving but no where near as much alcohol does (alcohol also profoundly effects judgment and will cause someone to do something riskier, marijuana gives the user anxiety and they will be to afraid or paranoid to do something reckless). There is absolutely no reason why marijuana shouldn't be legal while alcohol is legal. So I'll ask the question: why do we hold double-standards for drugs?
I think there's a lot of reasons for it. All of what you just expressed is parallel with my knowledge of drugs. The thing is that most people don't know the truth. Most of the sources that give the public information about drugs are either pro or anti drugs. So you get all these arguments that are basically: "Marijuana will fry your brain and LSD will make you go on mass-murdering sprees" versus "Dude, pot isn't a drug, man, it's part of Mother Earth, and LSD lets you see into another dimension of reality." And the actually facts about drugs are drowned out by these political arguments. The fact is: alcohol will kill you much faster than pot ever could, and cigarettes are worse in many ways such as being physically addictive and causing lung damage to a far greater extent than cannabis. And yet those two substances are legal, and the majority of American don't even frown upon their use. But cannabis remains illegal, despite the fact that it is much less harmful than either of these. And LSD is proven to be virtually harmless, but it's still looked at by the general public as a terrible, addicting, hard-core drug.
And there's all sorts of reasons for why legalizing marijuana would be beneficial, but the tobacco and alcohol companies as well as police agencies don't want that because it would be bad for business. The town I live in is a fairly crime free area, or at least it would be if marijuana were legal. A murder here is almost unheard of, but the police arrest ten pot heads who weren't hurting anyone every day. Without being able to arrest people for marijuana possession (or signs of it, like paraphernalia) what would they do? But on a larger scale, the government could save a lot of money on paying law enforcement if cannabis was legal, and maybe that money could be put to some good use. And all that's not to mention how much money the government could make from taxing the stuff once it's on the market.
There's a lot of good arguments for legalizing, and not many for keeping things the way they are. But, honestly, I'm not hoping for anything to change soon. It'd be nice, but I just don't think it will happen, at least not on a nationwide scale. Maybe someday people will realize the truth, and some change will be made.